Hokies earn more than Wahoos

titansalaryThe survey is done and the results are in: If you want to make bank as a recent grad, Virginia Tech is the place to go.

A recent survey posted on payscale.com found that the median income for recent graduates of Virginia Tech is $52,900 per year.  That is $700 more than its closest competitor, the University of Virginia. That’s right, Cavaliers: The Hokies got you beat.

Dartmouth College was No. 1 on the list.

Tech was No. 72.

Tech also inched out UVA with the median salary mid-career as well, with $97,400to UVA’s $97,200. But nobody in the region seems to make as much mid-career as the grads of Washington & Lee, whose mid-career salaries land a median of $104,000 annually.

The number of people surveyed is unclear, but it has a heavy margin of error for the Ivy League and small liberal arts schools such as the University of Richmond. For those institutions, the margin of error is 10 percent. The whole survey has a margin of 5 percent.

University of Richmond grads fare a little better than their rival William & Mary after graduation: UR grads are making $48,900 to W&M grads’ $46,900, although W&M grads seem to make more mid-career.

Both schools just manage to edge out VCU grads, who make a median of $42,000 annually after graduating.

See the rest of the schools in the region in order of highest to lowest starting salary.

Virginia Tech
Starting: $52,900
Mid-Career: $97,400

University of Virginia
Starting: $52,200
Mid-Career: $97,200

Washington and Lee
Starting: $51,800
Mid-Career: $104,000

George Mason University
Starting: $49,300
Mid-Career: $85,700

University of Richmond
Starting: $48,900
Mid-Career: $88,700

The College of William and Mary
Starting: $46,900
Mid-Career: $89,300

Hampton University
Starting: $45,300
Mid Career: $75,800

James Madison University
Starting: $47,300
Mid-Career: $77,100

Old Dominion University
Starting: $42,700
Mid-Career: $76,700

Virginia Commonwealth University
Starting: $42,300
Mid-Career: $70,100

Randolph-Macon College
Starting: $42,100
Mid-Career: $82,600

Liberty University
Starting: $39,700
Mid-Career: $76,900

Norfolk State University
Starting: $38,100
Mid-Career: $63,800


David Larter covers higher education for BizSense. Please send news tips to [email protected]

titansalaryThe survey is done and the results are in: If you want to make bank as a recent grad, Virginia Tech is the place to go.

A recent survey posted on payscale.com found that the median income for recent graduates of Virginia Tech is $52,900 per year.  That is $700 more than its closest competitor, the University of Virginia. That’s right, Cavaliers: The Hokies got you beat.

Dartmouth College was No. 1 on the list.

Tech was No. 72.

Tech also inched out UVA with the median salary mid-career as well, with $97,400to UVA’s $97,200. But nobody in the region seems to make as much mid-career as the grads of Washington & Lee, whose mid-career salaries land a median of $104,000 annually.

The number of people surveyed is unclear, but it has a heavy margin of error for the Ivy League and small liberal arts schools such as the University of Richmond. For those institutions, the margin of error is 10 percent. The whole survey has a margin of 5 percent.

University of Richmond grads fare a little better than their rival William & Mary after graduation: UR grads are making $48,900 to W&M grads’ $46,900, although W&M grads seem to make more mid-career.

Both schools just manage to edge out VCU grads, who make a median of $42,000 annually after graduating.

See the rest of the schools in the region in order of highest to lowest starting salary.

Virginia Tech
Starting: $52,900
Mid-Career: $97,400

University of Virginia
Starting: $52,200
Mid-Career: $97,200

Washington and Lee
Starting: $51,800
Mid-Career: $104,000

George Mason University
Starting: $49,300
Mid-Career: $85,700

University of Richmond
Starting: $48,900
Mid-Career: $88,700

The College of William and Mary
Starting: $46,900
Mid-Career: $89,300

Hampton University
Starting: $45,300
Mid Career: $75,800

James Madison University
Starting: $47,300
Mid-Career: $77,100

Old Dominion University
Starting: $42,700
Mid-Career: $76,700

Virginia Commonwealth University
Starting: $42,300
Mid-Career: $70,100

Randolph-Macon College
Starting: $42,100
Mid-Career: $82,600

Liberty University
Starting: $39,700
Mid-Career: $76,900

Norfolk State University
Starting: $38,100
Mid-Career: $63,800


David Larter covers higher education for BizSense. Please send news tips to [email protected]

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Mike Mullins
Mike Mullins
13 years ago

Looks like the margin of error is in place here or this article was written by a hokie

john m
john m
13 years ago

“See the rest of the schools in the region in order of highest to lowest starting salary.”

The rest of the schools in the study in the region, anyway. None of the local HBCUs seem to have been included, leaving out VUU, Norfolk State, Virginia State…

admin
admin
13 years ago

Hi John,

Thanks for the comment. I apologize for not making that clear. I did look up Virginia State and Virginia Union but they were not on the survey we are quoting here. Honestly, Norfolk State just slipped my mind. I did see that it was on the list now that you mention it, so I’ll add it to the article now. Thanks for reading!

David Larter

PS. And to Mike’s point, I’m a Spider, not a Hokie.

Rich O.
Rich O.
13 years ago

A little hometown favoritism still. ODU is higher than VCU but shown lower on the list.

Pirate pride
Pirate pride
13 years ago

I love Hampton University. I was blessed to graduate may 11 and start on the job june 2 making $52, 700 starting out. Im so proud of all the in-state schools. Oh yeah, GO HOKIES!!!

R.T.
R.T.
13 years ago

You also left off George Mason and James Madison. GMU was $49,300 & $85,700. JMU was $47,300 and $77,100.

Sampling Error
Sampling Error
13 years ago

I find two major flaws with this list. One; it doesn’t take post-graduate degrees into account. Thus students who become doctors, lawyers, etc.. are excluded. HUGE problem. Secondly, it doesn’t take cost of living in account either. Large proportions of graduates from schools near New York are going to work in New York and by default, have higher salaries than graduates from Iowa who work in Iowa. That wasn’t factored into the list either. I don’t put much stock in it at all.

Nostromo
Nostromo
10 years ago
Reply to  Sampling Error

Waaaaaahoo.

jared
jared
9 years ago
Reply to  Sampling Error

Out of curiosity, which Virginia schools are close to New York?

Matt
Matt
13 years ago

Don’t mind Mike, he’s just being a typical Cav

Ben
Ben
13 years ago

More UVA students will make a LOT more than hokies 10 years down the road, with our Law, Business, Medical, etc, degrees. This is a marathon, not a sprint. VPI is higher right now b/c they have some many engineers, who get paid very well out of college. But the maximum earning potential for an engineer levels off in the lower 6-figures, whereas the degrees mentioned above are what gets one into the upper 6-figures and into the millions.

Thanks for playing.

VT4Life
VT4Life
13 years ago

Dear Ben, If you read, you will know that these rankings are for undergraduates. Basically a VT undergraduate degree on average is worth more than a UVA degree. Now be advised, you might say “well the Engineers at VT will bring the average up.” But it’s obvious that we have an equally large Agriculture College that brings that average out. Also, it is unfair to compare law and med schools as VT doesn’t have the former, and the latter isn’t fully constructed yet. Just admit that VT is as good as school as UVA and has equal opportunities. Salary means… Read more »

Patrick
Patrick
13 years ago

Where did you get your information from Ben? Engineering salaries can go up above the lower 100k range. You say it doesn’t include doctors or lawyers, well it also doesn’t include graduate students from the college of engineering either who will have starting salaries in the 70 to 90k range. So equally the graduate students were left out, so that argument is mute.

And anyways, a majority of students wanted to go to VT. While UVA has a good portion who went there as a backup because daddy couldn’t buy them a spot at Harvard.

TarHokie
TarHokie
13 years ago

As someone who attended undergrad at VT and business school at UNC-Chapel Hill, I can confidently say that VT is a top-tier education. While there may not be the schmoozing opportunities available as at an Ivy League or other Top 25 institution, the education is as good or better. The reason graduate degrees aren’t factored in is that it complicates the analysis to the point of being meaningless. How do you seperate out the value of the graduate degrees and the associated institutions? Most professional students do not stay at their undergraduate institution, so you end up combining brands. For… Read more »

DC Spider
DC Spider
13 years ago

What is mid-career? An age, a number of years in the workforce, a level? Not sure what that is.

hoocares
hoocares
13 years ago

Wow….what a joke of an article. Anyone who took elementary math could see the flaws in this reporting. The figures show a median salary, not a mean salary. So yes, tech spits out a larger population of students with engineering degrees that will go out and make 60-70 k a year while UVa most likely has a lot of liberal arts degrees that start out earning less. Surely if you calculated the mean salary UVa would be higher, cause I know there are some very high salaries being offered to a portion of UVa grads. Either way, who cares. Both… Read more »

Scott
Scott
13 years ago

Wait, so are we supposed to be surprised that an engineering based school has a stronger undergrad median salary than a social science undergrad program? Social Sciences are pretty much useless in the working world until you get to the post-graduate programs (Masters, PhDs, etc). Outside of McIntyre school of Business, there are only a few UVA programs that are specifically aimed at going right into the work force (for reference, McIntyre average salary right out of school is 58k a year*). By looking strictly at those with only an undergrad degree, this list isn’t really comparing similar schools. And… Read more »

Scott
Scott
13 years ago

To sum up what I just said:
UVA == Liberal Arts school, ideal for graduate schools
VaTech == Engineering school, ideal for career

Take a survey of the median and average salary of all graduates of each school fifteen to twenty years out and that would be a much less bias statistical population to use.

Mary
Mary
13 years ago

What about University of Mary Washington? I think the survey needs serious correcting.

VT Geography
VT Geography
13 years ago

close to $200000 this year

@laptopmnky
@laptopmnky
13 years ago

I’d sure like to be making 42k… VCU Dec. 2008 Grad. 🙂 School of the Arts though.

Also, UVA vs. VT talk makes me want to throw up.

Guy
Guy
13 years ago

Anyone who really believes that all the rich children who go to UR are entering fields that pay dramatically less, especially at mid-career, than the grads from Va. Tech are entering, raise your hands. This is a flawed study.

Justin
Justin
13 years ago

I will be graduating from VT in May and was really happy to read this article and rub it in the faces of my UVA friends from high school who seem to think VT sucks in relation. I know numbers and the median is a better way to show average salaries then the mean. The median will take out outliers like the guy who got a job making 200k or the other guy making 20k. Both great schools though and plenty of good ones elsewhere in Va. GO HOKIES!!

Really Patrick??
Really Patrick??
13 years ago

The point would be moot, not mute. I learned that in High School and used it correctly in my admissions essays hence the reason I got into UVA and VT only thing is that the VT application took me 15 minutes and I was accepted immediately. I would like to concur that this is clearly reporting median salaries and with VT graduating significantly more engineers who have much higher starting salaries then their liberal arts counterparts I am not surprised that they edged UVA by a few hundred dollars. I would love to see the data pool for this study,… Read more »

Haywood Jablome
Haywood Jablome
12 years ago

The next time you are sitting in traffic around the beltway, compare the vehicles you see with VT bumper stickers with those sporting the UVA window decals. You might find an occasional Lexus with the VT logo, but pretty much all of the Audis, BWMs, et al, will fall into the UVA column. You can play with the salary numbers if it gives you a sense of self-worth with your Tech degree, meanwhile I and my peers have all made a ton of cash since we graduated the University.

Shelley Woodroof
Shelley Woodroof
12 years ago

This UVA/VT stuff is so stupid…the bottom line is: U.S. News & World Report Rankings: America’s Best Colleges The University of Virginia continues to excel in the U.S. News & World Report’s annual rankings. In March 2009, many of U.Va.’s graduate programs earned top recognitions (see below). In August 2009, U.S. News & World Report’s latest (undergraduate) college rankings placed the University of Virginia as the nation’s No. 2 public university and 24th (tied with UCLA) among 248 national universities. Since U.S. News began a separate listing of the top 50 public universities, U.Va. has never been ranked lower than… Read more »

Pamplin Graduate
Pamplin Graduate
12 years ago

25% of the US News rankings are a 4-year graduation metric. This destroys Virginia Tech and isn’t fair because our majors, in general, are much harder than UVA majors. For example, chemical engineering: You try doing a 132 hour engineering curriculum in just 4 years with 2 internship summers. It isn’t possible for the even the average engineer (Sat ~1350; GPA 4.3) to do.

Charlie
Charlie
10 years ago

Of course UVa people are going to get on their high-horses. So what if VT has higher numbers because of engineering? Its still an education and a job that that person earned. And Haywood…seriously? Pointing out cars? I see Harvard, Yale, and Stanford bumper stickers on cars that are not “high-value” cars that people like to flaunt. And I am confused as to how you can’t include lawyers and doctors? its a job, and a very hard one if you aren’t aware. I also know MANY Virginia Tech grads who make far more than UVa grads. If you can graduate… Read more »

SydneyVT
SydneyVT
10 years ago

We’re talking a $700 difference here. Don’t get your panties in a wad about it.

realVT
realVT
10 years ago

38-0

whatnexthighschools
whatnexthighschools
10 years ago

I didn’t go to college, glad I didn’t since everyone here has the time to argue over $700 / year. College wasn’t for me, so I started a business and have quite a few VT and UVA grads working for me (oh, I’m 35 btw).

Nostromo
Nostromo
10 years ago

The USA desperately needs scientist and engineers as we enter the 21st century. The value of Land Grant engineering-based schools are overtaking their formerly more prestigious liberal arts peers: VT vs. UVA, Auburn vs. Alabama, Georgia Tech vs. Georgia, Purdue vs. Indianna, etc. Its a hard fact, the future values engineers more than poets.

Transit
Transit
10 years ago

I really wish VSU would have been on here.

Dex
Dex
9 years ago

Did anyone miss that this was a survey? I’m a statistics major, and this post is close to useless. Did no one realize the reason they used median salaries? Yeah… Compare the UVA outliers and the Tech outliers and see what you get.

“This destroys Virginia Tech and isn’t fair because our majors, in general, are much harder than UVA majors. For example, chemical engineering: You try doing a 132 hour engineering curriculum in just 4 years with 2 internship summers. “…. Really? because UVA doesn’t have a chemical engineering major…

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