The 123-year-old building once helped provide hydroelectric power to downtown Richmond. (Mike Platania photos)
Thalhimer Realty Partners is already involved in bringing a sizable pickleball facility to western Henrico. Now, the busy local developer is looking to bring another racquet sports venue to the downtown waterfront.
TRP is under contract to purchase the former Haxall Canal hydro plant building at 1201 Haxall Point, according to planning documents filed with the city this week.
Its plans for the property, documents show, is to create an “indoor-outdoor racquet sports” venue with a food and beverage component.
Once a hydro plant for a previous iteration of Dominion Energy in the early 1900s, the building has sat vacant for over 50 years, with its most prominent use being a canvas for murals facing the canal.
The building totals around 19,000 square feet and includes a 6,500-square-foot outdoor space along the Canal Walk. The building and its 0.9-acre plot were most recently assessed by the city at $1.6 million. The property is zoned B-4 Central Business District.
The exact racquet sport TRP envisions for its plan is not listed on the zoning confirmation letter that was filed this week, though the firm has connections to pickleball.
TRP is part of the team that’s redeveloping Regency mall, where Performance Pickleball RVA is taking over a 41,000-square-foot section of a former Macy’s building. Performance Pickleball is co-owned by Thalhimer CEO Lee Warfield.
A covered area on the building’s north side abuts the Canal Walk.
It’s unclear whether TRP would renovate the 123-year-old hydro plant or build anew. TRP principal Drew Wiltshire said Tuesday he couldn’t comment on the plans.
The property is currently owned by Baltimore-based development firm Cordish Cos. It acquired the real estate in 2000 as part of its nearby $86 million mixed-use Riverside on the James project and has put it on and off the market in recent years.
A previous listing for the property touted that a second floor could be added to the structure, which already has 35-foot ceilings.
Cordish spokespeople did not respond to requests for comment by press time.
TRP in recent years has become one of the more prolific developers in the region. In addition to leading the multibillion-dollar Diamond District project, the Henrico-based firm is also working on mixed-use projects all over town, from Manchester to Scott’s Addition to the Near West End.
Just to the east of the Haxall Canal is the site of the final phase of WVS Cos. and Fountainhead Real Estate Development’s The Locks development. The duo of local developers are planning a pair of buildings that would reach up to 12 stories and bring over 250 apartments plus commercial space to the Canal Walk area.
The 123-year-old building once helped provide hydroelectric power to downtown Richmond. (Mike Platania photos)
Thalhimer Realty Partners is already involved in bringing a sizable pickleball facility to western Henrico. Now, the busy local developer is looking to bring another racquet sports venue to the downtown waterfront.
TRP is under contract to purchase the former Haxall Canal hydro plant building at 1201 Haxall Point, according to planning documents filed with the city this week.
Its plans for the property, documents show, is to create an “indoor-outdoor racquet sports” venue with a food and beverage component.
Once a hydro plant for a previous iteration of Dominion Energy in the early 1900s, the building has sat vacant for over 50 years, with its most prominent use being a canvas for murals facing the canal.
The building totals around 19,000 square feet and includes a 6,500-square-foot outdoor space along the Canal Walk. The building and its 0.9-acre plot were most recently assessed by the city at $1.6 million. The property is zoned B-4 Central Business District.
The exact racquet sport TRP envisions for its plan is not listed on the zoning confirmation letter that was filed this week, though the firm has connections to pickleball.
TRP is part of the team that’s redeveloping Regency mall, where Performance Pickleball RVA is taking over a 41,000-square-foot section of a former Macy’s building. Performance Pickleball is co-owned by Thalhimer CEO Lee Warfield.
A covered area on the building’s north side abuts the Canal Walk.
It’s unclear whether TRP would renovate the 123-year-old hydro plant or build anew. TRP principal Drew Wiltshire said Tuesday he couldn’t comment on the plans.
The property is currently owned by Baltimore-based development firm Cordish Cos. It acquired the real estate in 2000 as part of its nearby $86 million mixed-use Riverside on the James project and has put it on and off the market in recent years.
A previous listing for the property touted that a second floor could be added to the structure, which already has 35-foot ceilings.
Cordish spokespeople did not respond to requests for comment by press time.
TRP in recent years has become one of the more prolific developers in the region. In addition to leading the multibillion-dollar Diamond District project, the Henrico-based firm is also working on mixed-use projects all over town, from Manchester to Scott’s Addition to the Near West End.
Just to the east of the Haxall Canal is the site of the final phase of WVS Cos. and Fountainhead Real Estate Development’s The Locks development. The duo of local developers are planning a pair of buildings that would reach up to 12 stories and bring over 250 apartments plus commercial space to the Canal Walk area.
I always thought if any building was prime for a food hall this was it. Could think of better things than a pickleball facility, but I guess this may bring some needed activity down there and at least it will be easy to convert when the fad passes.
A food hall would be great, but pickleball is nothing but noise pollution. Plus why destroy the Haxall Murals? What cultureless cretin would do such an evil thing?
Are you angry that some of the older murals were painted over and replaced?
I don’t think they need to be replaced for Pickleball/
Not sure the murals would go with outdoor pickleball, but I think the main idea MAY be indoor pickleball.
Noise pollution???
Do you know where we are talking about? Casa del Barco has a patio, and the place already echos — people want to turn it into a little San Antonio river walk type place — this isn’t the Chichahmonny Swamp.
The replacement of the older murals was done with the prior artists’ knowledge this was going to happen, and it gave some new artists an opportunity to showcase their work. Replacing the Haxall Murals with stupid boomer fake sports is obscene. The noise from pickleball is the number one reason so many communities are fighting over these complexes. The THWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCK can be heard for over a mile. I know EXACTLY what this noise is, why it has been the subject of HOA lawsuits for years now. And, mark my words, it will be the subject of several lawsuits here if… Read more »
Well, some advice — it I were a principal in this project, or had ANY interest in it other than just wanting some viable, profitable use for it, I would definite want YOU to show up and be given as loud a microphone as possible; I probably shouldn’t be telling you this. Ah, so, you are just fine with taking down murals if you approve — so this is not about the sanctity of art at all — of course it isn’t. We agree that there are likely more attractive uses sometime in the future. Glad that we share a… Read more »
No one TOOK DOWN the murals. You clearly don’t even live here. There is no way you live here if you do not know this.
Yeah, um, no one is getting in a tizzy over pickleball court noise in the city. Urban residents expect noise. Suburban residents? Not so much.
Great point! Urban residents complaining about NOISE!!!
I think this is basically about various chauvanisms, not Art, Nature or Pickleball.
Still, people who live above Casa del Barco might not be happy, nor the restaurant itself.
That’s because we have no pickleball noise in the city, and this part of the city is relatively quiet. Pickleball noise will absolutely be a concern, and the environmental studies will absolutely be a thing.
As someone who works in the tourism industry here in Richmond, I would be heart broken to see this. The city has done an incredible job “place making” here, and with the mural festival they’ve created a space that blends Richmond’s old industrial past with it’s artistic present in a way that really resonates with visitors. On my tours of the Canal Walk this is the number one requested photo opportunity from visitors. Many of them even already know about the area and ask specifically if we are going there so they can see it. Will they be moving the… Read more »
Murals are easy to “move” — esp since some of the better ones have been repainted over at that location recently. The new dancers one is a least pretty good — my daughter misses the owl though.
Yes, it is interesting, but it also has a controversal aesthetic — to some it seems hip, to others it evokes Urban Blight, which is also a band from the 1980s.
To whom does the Haxall mural art seem like “Urban Blight”? Arrivistes from NoVa? And you think causing all that noise pollution right next to a Blue Heron nesting area is a good thing? This is an appalling, horrible idea. Go back to wherever you came from. You’re obviously not from RVA if you think like this.
Your obvious sense of superiority is noted but I am not quite sure where it is coming from. Are people from NoVa bad? I lived there for three years and they were the most reasonable AND diverse cohort I ever lived among, including the place I am ACTUALLY from, who are not terribly reasonable Sharon my friend, there are PLENTY of native Richmonders who think like this; some are even anglophiles — when I moved to Richmond from NYS in 2003, there was actually a big push to catch and punish graffitti taggers going on in Richmond — I think… Read more »
Surprising you’re such a self-acclaimed expert on all things Richmond but never heard of the Great Blue Heron Rookery.
Richmond doesn’t have skyscrapers.
And it’s amazing yet again, oh-Expert-on-all-things-Richmond, that you vaguely recall some falcon cam thingy on some non-existent Richmond “skyscraper”, but are utterly clueless as to the Osprey nesting along the river.
You’re a fake and a fraud, a johnny-come-lately who wants to turn Richmond into some stupid suburban mall. Pffft.
A couple of points of clarification: Currently, there is no universally accepted standard for what defines a skyscraper in terms of height. Emporis has long held the cutoff to be 100 meters (328 feet), whereas The B1M currently sets the cutoff at 150 meters (492 feet). It really depends on whose opinion is followed. By Emporis’ standards, Richmond has a handful of buildings that technically qualify as skyscrapers. By The B1M’s standard, however, Richmond does not. I think it’s safe to suggest that with the advent in this century of “supertall” buildings (300 meters/984 feet) and “megatall” towers (600 meters/1,968… Read more »
Thanks for the defense — even if she is correct technically, I just meant “one of the taller bldgs downtown” — I didn’t know this distinction was going to be an “issue” —- maybe she can inform some bureaucracies and advocacy groups that I am misusing the English Language and get me finally removed from RIchmond Bizsense or even a Restraining Order not to get closer than one hundred ft from any public art or wild bird? She seems to know how to work the system. She seems though strangely anti-immigrant, or migrant, johnny-come- latelies or whatever — not sure… Read more »
Fake and a fraud expert on a third tier city that just recently emerged from it’s “Murder Capital of the USA” designation when I moved here? That’s pretty low. I’m just saying I know more about Richmond than the average Richmonder — not a high bar and it wouldn’t exactly get me invited to any more parties than already happens without that distinction. HEY! Falcon Cam STILL EXISTS!!! I guess I don’t know EVERYTHING!!! https://dwr.virginia.gov/falcon-cam/ I thought you said it was a Blue Heron thing? Now it’s a seahawk??? Can you blame me for being confused? I mean, I don’t… Read more »
95 still runs north……..
I’m so sick of our community making it hard to progress. A building abandoned for 50 years might turn into a cool downtown attraction/amenity, and we are upset because the birds demand perfect silence. We don’t even know what the plan for this place is. Maybe they will do a good job maybe they will do a terrible job. But isn’t it good that people are at least trying to make use of an uninhabited space and bring some life to the canal walk. With that said, I’d prefer to see the murals remain and I would love a bar… Read more »
Not what I said. I said THAT particular noise, which is sustained, very, very loud, and travels for great distance, is not appropriate.
Yes, build a food hall, increase attraction to pedestrian traffic. 100% yes.
Pickleball increases zero pedestrian traffic, is obnoxious as hell to everyone who will be living or working in range of the noise, and is absolutely disruptive to the natural inhabitants of the James River.
Which doesn’t include Johnny-Come-Latelies from the Hudson!!!!
I’ve seen a LOT of cities that had TOO many crabby people block things to the point that everything just started falling apart and people with energy and talent just starting avoid them. If I thought that Richmond was getting more of these people instead of less of them, I’d be gone tomorrow and we’d BOTH be glad.
Please 95 really runs back up north…….
If these birds demanded perfect silence, they wouldn’t be on that side of the river at all.
And they’d likely be a mile up or downriver to boot.
“Artistic present” now that’s funny………
I have always wanted to put a tech start up or consult company in this building. Just love the architecture!
Go ahead. Do you HAVE a tech start up to put somewhere?
Chill out man. I agree with some of your earlier opinions, but this just reads like you wanting to do war in the comments. Chill.
Your assessment is probably in part correct. If I am harshing your mellow, I apologize. Like a LOT of people, I disagree with some stuff that is said — I get a little annoyed when people suggest they are some kind of urban planner when the actual urban planners tend to not be able to get done what they want even if they have a mandate from higher up — I agree that I would MUCH rather have tech start ups in there than more pickleball or even food-stuff —- but one must crawl before one can walk and when… Read more »
David: Pickleball isn’t a fad. It’s the fastest growing sport in the country. The economics are fantastic! For example, you can fit 4 pickleball courts on a single tennis court. That’s income from 16 doubles players versus 4 for tennis.
I know people of all ages that get hooked once they try it!
As an aside, the ceiling height at this location is excellent, and a downtown location should be great.
Perhaps I should clarify. I think the Pickleball “clubs” are a fad. I think as more underutilized public tennis courts are converted to pickleball or are lined for double use the model for these clubs will fade. Additionally, localities like Henrico are building new public pickleball facilities.
I would add. I still see the use here as a temporary use. A good temporary use, but definitely a temporary one.
It’s an old people from The Villages thing. I hate boomers. They destroy everything good in this world. So, so selfish. All for money, like they’re going to live forever.
Wow! You hate a LOT of people!!! Most Virginians, for example — most Virginians live in NoVa, and most a very large number of virginians who don’t live in NoVa are Boomers. Are you SURE you are better than these people? Boomers actually were known for being kinda starry eyed idealists — Joni Mitchell, the Greatful Dead, Neil Young…. They say you shouldn’t judge people until you can stand in their shoes a bit — if you are young, you can’t — people allege that what ACTUALLY happened to the Boomers is that they grew up…. I am Gen X… Read more »
You sure think you’re better than everyone in Richmond.
NOT TRUE!!!! I can name more individuals than I have fingers and toes that I am SURE are better than I am (unless they have some DARK secrets!!!!) And I am absolutely sure there are THOUSANDS of people in Richmond that are better than I am by some objective measures. Look, if I so much as THOUGHT that, I would live somewhere better —- the honest truth is that Richmond was the best I thought I could do at the time for various reasons, and the place reminded me of home in some ways, a home that had a lot… Read more »
BTW, I guess this is part of why you are anti-pickle ball (on top of fish eating waterfowl concern, which I would think that would make you also anti-urban, but perhaps not)
You would be correct if you thought that this originated with the boomers (like a LOT of cool things, by the way) but now EVERYONE seems to be playing it — I think the deal is that it is in several ways more accessible (like the opposite of Hockey) yet still there is infinite room for improvement once you start — kinda like the guitar.
What are you getting paid to spew this hilariously out of touch, outdated blather…? You’re a shill and a fraud. Get lost.
Because I like reading your comments and responding to them. I promise you I am not a shill here. I wish I was, but then it wouldn’t be any fun. But maybe you can prove that I am a fraud. If you could specify exactly what I am trying to portray myself as I could refute or perhaps reflect and maybe partially agree… Outdated??? Says who? When I am in downtown Richmond, I see LOTS of gen Z people with Grateful dead shirts, and Led Zeppelin and even Joy Division …. and they have the Gen X bands like Nirvana… Read more »
If Boomers are truly who popularized Pickleball it’s only because 1. They’re at retirement age without any kids in the house and 2. They have disposable income to take up a new sport since they aren’t strapped with student debt like their children.
Don’t say they have…. shhhhh…. “disposable income” — that will get some people very, very angry….
Millennial here, it’s pretty fun. We’re near peak fad, but it is fun. And just broadly painting all boomers as nature hating, all greedy monsters just makes you look unstable.
It’s only certain types of boomers that live in places like the Villages. There are worse boomers and better boomers. Some boomers have done more to improve their world than I ever will. And some were never productive enough to even be able to afford to live in the Villages, much less some Margritaville type community or even the actual expensive places. That said, I am pretty sure that there are some great people that live in the Villages — it’s what I tell people who have a negative impression of who lives in Richmond — they aren’t all the… Read more »
What is the status of the final two buildings as they were announced over 2 years ago at the Locks? Pickleball with a bar….they tried pool with a bar at the old John Marshall and that did not work.
Sorry to hear that — I loved the pool hall concept. I was once a bit of a Rough Boy, but not a participant in the Rough Trade. I like the whole culture though.
Those would be Tom Papa’s Locks 7 and 8, correct? I’ve been wondering that myself. That project seems to have been in limbo for several years now, though to be fair, Papa’s company has half a dozen projects in the pipeline downtown and in Manchester and, if I recall, the one that he seemed most ready to move forward on (as of earlier this year) was South Falls II in Manchester.
I think that’s a great concept. Who cares if it is a fad or not? What difference would that make ? By all accounts it’s the fastest growing sport out there. It is a great space and a good use and will bring people down there to do something fun in a unique location. One direction-forward!
How is the most obnoxious noise in the world next to a protected bird nesting site a “good use” for the area? This is a terrible, terrible use, and just one more example of money-grubbing, greedy, selfish boomers ruining everything around them.
The most obnoxious noise in the world are political activists.
Do you secretly hate your parents? And blaming boomers for everything is just your way to act out?
Oh, it is not merely boomers — it’s everyone in NoVa, which together has to be at least 3/4 of Virginia.
But there are no doubt more groups to add in there! Seems to not like people not from Richmond originally, but this may be just a dodge to avoid naming the actual groups. Most people are fine with new folks moving in — as long as they are exactly like they are!!! At least that has been my observation. Others like a diversity of backgrounds, outlooks…
YES!!! I am totally agnostic as to the best use for this awesome but very challenging space (Parking?) 😉 but I am delighted to see that SOMEONE plans to make use of it SOMEHOW. Yes, a Eastern Market/Baltimore Market/Barcelona Market/Seattle Market type thing would be AWESOME, and I think the city should facilitate that in the Train Shed — it was actually a poor old man from Baltimore that gave me that idea, but Richmonders only listen to me SLIGHTLY more than they listen to guys like him, so…. Think of all the ways a food market would be awesome… Read more »
Oh, for God’s sake, no. This is so wrong for this area. The river and canal are places to walk and experience wildlife, nature. This guy wants to poison and pollute the beautiful, natural sounds of the river and bird life with THWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCK?? This is an environmental disaster and a completely awful thing from start to finish. Absolutely no.
The canal walk was most certainly not envisioned solely as a place to experience and enjoy nature.
Oh, okay. THWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCK…sick of it yet? Pickleball is for losers who can’t play real sports, pickleball is ripping apart communities BECAUSE it’s so noisy (and becaue the kind of people who play pickleball are notoriously obnoxious), and pickleball will NOT be happening there. Already contacted several agencies and entities about the noise pollution, hazard to the rookery, etc. No way this will happen.
Was not disputing the annoyance of pickleball. But was disputing that the canal walk is for experiencing wildlife and nature.
Yes…. I suspect that, if outdoor is the goal, the interests of the people sitting outside and the (human) residents nearby will somehow be more of a factor than birds.
You can’t even tell that you are anywhere NEAR the river at this site unless you walk a bit down to where the flood wall area is, and where the river actually is you can’t hear anything from that area because of all the echo-iness around that spot — surrounded by high, hard surfaces.
Yes, the “echo-iness” and the THWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCKTHWOCK of pickleball is a great combination…./eyeroll.
It’s part and parcel of the greater James River system, and, sure, it’s a great place for small restaurants, should be made more attractive to pedestrian traffic, but that this “Shawn Harper” person, who seems to be some kind of paid shill for this project, is insisting that pickleball is the best, the only, the greatest thing that can happen at that spot is just ridiculous. Worst idea ever.
I think that you are so obviously off-base on this shill comment that you are getting downvotes even though I am unpopular here.
Trust me, were I paid shill, I would be at least proofreading these comments, and I would be far more careful about how I worded things that you would hear the “professional” speak coming off the page.
I once had a job telemarketing for my University and I got fired because I am TERRIBLE at any form of sales!
Also, if it is an indoor facility you don’t really have an argument. Even as annoying as that sound is it is not heavy concrete wall penetrating sound.
And who, prey tell, will be flocking to this facility? How does this incredibly narrow focus enhance the area for anyone else?
Food hall? Sure. Pickleball, no. Will fight this, bring this to the attention of every agency possible to put a stop to it.
Sharon, you seem angry that someone has come up with a plan to try something – that could give a new life for this iconic Richmond building. Just curious, what is driving your anger towards pickle ball? Is there something that you hate about it other than the noise? What is your expertise on this matter? Others online have suggested that these guys might put the courts inside. Does that concept bother you as well? If so, why? I think it’s notable that this property has been vacant for over 50 years. To me, it would be great to see… Read more »
I bet a lot of the people who work for these agencies also enjoy pickleball. It seems everyone but you and I already do — BE CAREFUL!!! They are …. everywhere…
You are perhaps revealing a bit too much of yourself — you say it is because of the outside noise, it is because of the precious art — but when you take away those concerns …. then you are suddenly concerned about EVERYONE being able to like/enjoy whatever goes on in there — meanwhile, not everyone even likes going to art museums, or likes the murals — and I for one have to conclude that this isn’t even about TASTE for you, there is something even beyond hating large groups of people or noise (what kind of person who hates… Read more »
You could also just be trolling — the strangeness and extreme nature of the posts suggests that you are doing just that.
WHOA!!! This is impressive! Let’s recap: NoVa people are bad Boomers deserve hate because they care about money more than (ha-ha) who again??? People who can’t play “Real Sports” — so, nerds? The “differently abled” ….. poets? Okay, I am pretty sure we can expand this list further — Nickelback fans???? That’s likely a safe guess — but it might be more efficient for you to list who you actually LIKE…. Where is the rookery? I know THREE people who play pickleball — one I think is too young to be gen-x and is rather idealistic, another is indeed a… Read more »
Yeah, this is a kinda funny take isn’t it?
And along HOW many miles of the James River (just in the city alone) can one walk and enjoy the sounds of nature? And exactly HOW is one building — ONE — in a dense, highly-built-up, highly urban part of the city housing a few indoor pickleball courts going to completely torpedo the natural beauty, jogging/running/walking trails, natural wildlife, greenery, etc., of the entire riverfront on BOTH sides of the James? Can we kindly get a dose of reality please? Forgive me, but this mindset is exactly the same as that which claimed (a couple of years ago during the… Read more »
The story includes OUTDOOR pickleball courts as well as indoor, plus the possible removal of the Haxall Murals (which paid-shill-for-the-project, Shawn Harper, claims are “urban blight” and should be removed — because he got here yesterday and knows aaaaaaalll about Richmond and how Richmonders think and how we Richmonders aaaaallll hate the Haxall Murals). First of all, it is highly, highly unlikely that anyone is going to rush over to that building to play pickleball indoors. Secondly, pickleball noise concerns are a huge, huge issue everywhere pickleball crops up, leading to lawsuits and very heated local governance meetings, etc. The… Read more »
My dear Sharon, I certainly hope they don’t remove my comments because I want you to have the opportunity to go back and read what I wrote. I never said that ALL Richmonders hate the murals there — I am frankly not aware of ONE Richmonder who does, and I actually like murals and other public art as long as, like all artistic expression, they are very well-done. Some of those murals are well-done, and some of the murals in the Fan are VERY, VERY well-done, and I’d like to see more of that level of artistic awesomeness. No one,… Read more »
YES to all of this — is this person a new pseudonymn for another person, who’s name sounds like a famous german-american sandwich, who also thinks that there is not enough wild waterfront on the James? I actually think this person is fun and I am pleased that SOMEONE is taking the other side of this prairiefire pickleball tsuinami of enthusiasm sweeping our land from coast-to-coast bay to lakes!! someone MUST, if only for us to keep our heads, so we can see if we are in danger of going TO FAR! I bought an old building a while back… Read more »
Shawn – re: said individual whose name sounds like a famous German-American sandwich – that individual to whom you allude ran through my mind yesterday because Sharon’s arguments sound VERY much like his. If memory serves, his regularly-scheduled kvetching comes from a “hill” that’s not exactly in Oregon. 😉
Well done, sir!
Maybe we are on to something…..
Are young people called Sharon anymore?? Sounds a bit like the “K” name that gen Z hates so bad….
PLM. Pickleball Lives Matter
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Sharon: Don’t believe everything you might have heard about Pickleball noise. First of all, you won’t hear any noise from the indoor courts, Who exactly will the “noise” bother? I live in a 55 and older community ( CrossRidge) we have 4 courts that are situated next to our Pavillion, which has all sorts of meetings day and night, and we haven’t had complaints about Pickleball noise, and we have been playing for over 5 years. We play in the AM, the afternoon, and under the lights at night.
Don’t you know pickleball is an atrocity! This clearly isn’t about hating a sport, it’s about hating people — don’t tell her you live in CrossRidge — you are part of the problem! Being that old is like genocide!!! My generation is just starting to get the “don’t trust anyone over 30” treatment that the 60s generation invented. Some people are saying that we control everything, even if we don’t have all the money yet, but that isn’t the truth yet. PLENTY of boomers still in the workforce and it is QUITE confusing for a generation Xer who is like… Read more »
It’s a fantastic location, a unique space and I’m glad to hear someone is developing it into something new and interesting. Will it work? Time will tell!
Yep! I think you have succinctly summed up the general consensus minus some outliers.
Didn’t we pay a fortune for a river master plan 10 years ago? We have one the most beautiful stretches of river-meets-urbanity in the country at our fingertips, incredible heritage architecture, and no plan. When a community has no plan, they get pickle ball and casinos and acre after acre of uninspired “infill” apartment buildings. It’s about time we start demanding some sort of vision beyond whatever developers write their checks for from those in charge – those who campaign on having vision. Lest before we know it we’re turning Maymont into the worlds largest frisbee golf course and brewpub… Read more »