City Hall critics fear retribution for complaining about permit delays

Permits main

Applicants wait in line at Richmond’s permitting center when it was still open to walk-ins before the pandemic. (BizSense file photos)

Editor’s Note: This is the last installment in a three-part series examining development review processes at Richmond City Hall. For previous articles, click here and here.

Builders and developers in Richmond aren’t shy about sharing their frustrations with the city’s permits and inspections office. But more often than not, they don’t want to put their name to it.

Many who BizSense has talked to over the years and in recent weeks while reporting on the office’s ongoing challenges have been quick to criticize the city and offer suggestions for improvement, so long as their name stays out of an article.

Said one builder who asked not to be named because he’s active in the city and known at City Hall: “I’ve got too much going on, I don’t need to be put on that blacklist.”

He added, “I’m afraid to put my name on it, because I don’t want the workers there to be like, ‘He told on us. Hey, is that one of his applications? Put it to the back of the pile.’”

Another City Hall frequenter who went on-record with his grievances in a past report later said he paid a price for doing so, contending that he had a harder time getting permits for the project at the center of his frustrations after he spoke out.

That was before the current leadership responsible for the office — Building Commissioner David Alley and Planning and Development Review Director Kevin Vonck — were put in charge last year. Both have been credited with making recent moves that some see as reasons to be optimistic for the future.

But such reports and perceptions among the development community remain a common refrain, and are nonetheless concerning to Vonck and Alley, they said.

Permits Kevin Vonck

Planning and Development Review Department Director Kevin Vonck outside Richmond City Hall. He was put in charge last year.

“I am dismayed to hear these types of comments,” said Vonck, who was named director last fall after leading the department in an acting role since the start of last year.

In an email, he added, “We will not tolerate any type of retaliation whatsoever from our employees. If a customer believes that he/she is being treated in a discriminatory or unfair manner, he/she should contact me immediately.”

Alley, a 20-year city employee who came up through the office before being named to lead it seven months ago, said such accounts do not match up with his experience at City Hall.

“I have received/investigated many complaints over the years as you would expect. However, none were related to employee retaliation or vindictiveness,” Alley said in an email.

“This type of behavior would certainly never be allowed or tolerated,” he added. “I hold myself and our staff to a higher ethical standard. How we represent ourselves reflects on how we represent the City of Richmond.”

Inherited issues

Vonck and Alley have inherited an office that has been plagued for years by complaints from builders and developers of slow turnarounds for permits, inspection no-shows and other delays that end up drawing out their projects and adding to their costs.

They’ve also inherited attempted fixes that applicants say have ended up making such problems worse, such as the slow-to-roll-out EnerGov Citizen Self Service platform that’s used to process and track applications online, and a more recent arrangement to outsource some plan reviews to a consulting firm office in California.

While they’re continuing the latter to help reduce the office’s backlog of plan reviews, Vonck and Alley are planning to phase out EnerGov in favor of an in-house system that could ultimately lead to a longer-term replacement. An anticipated upgrade to the processing software is included in the city’s proposed budget for next fiscal year, which starts in July.

The move would bring an end to a decade-long process that only started producing results four years ago, when the first EnerGov rollout went live. Additional features were rolled out in the years since, bringing to life what the city had purchased in 2012, when it awarded a $1.6 million contract to Georgia-based EnerGov Solutions for the system upgrades.

Lory Markham, a former city planner who started at City Hall around the time the procurement process that led to EnerGov got underway, said dropping the system, which she described as overly complex and inconsistently used, is a gutsy decision but the right one to make.

Permits Lory Markham

Lory Markham, a former planner at City Hall, now assists permit applicants through Markham Planning, her private development consulting business.

“The city outsourced that fundamental function of local government to this company in Atlanta, and they were not capable of providing that function in a way that the city needed it, for a number of reasons,” said Markham, now a private development consultant.

“The recognition of that from David Alley and Kevin Vonck — and the guts that it took to say, ‘This system isn’t working, we’re going to get rid of it,’ after the city had spent all this money and all this time on it — I think that is a huge step in the right direction,” Markham said. “It’s not any one person’s fault; it just didn’t work, and it caused this huge backlog.”

‘It’s a vindictive thing’

Now in the development consulting business, Markham has an upfront view of the applicant side of the permitting process in Richmond, interacting with the office regularly on behalf of her clients. And with her added perspective from her time in City Hall, Markham dismisses any claims of vindictiveness or acts of retribution from the office or City Hall on the whole.

“I just think that that is ridiculous,” Markham said, laughing. “It’s not like there’s a list of people that if they come in, they automatically go to the bottom of the pile. Just like there’s not a list of people that if they come in, they automatically go to the top of the pile. There’s a system, and if you know how to work within that system … you’re going to get (the permit) easier.

“I always felt like the people that worked at City Hall, myself included, were there to make the city a better place. I never felt like there was like a conspiracy to target people.”

Still, the perception remains among some developers.

Permits Tom Wilkinson

Tom Wilkinson

One of those is Tom Wilkinson, whose latest project over years of developing in Richmond is Port City, his conversion of the former American Tobacco Co. complex into income-based apartments.

Wilkinson, who said Port City will be his last in Richmond ahead of a planned retirement, alleged that he couldn’t get a certificate of occupancy for the project’s second phase after he complained about electrical inspection no-shows to Reva Trammell, the area’s City Council representative, who he said is a friend.

“I couldn’t get the CO because I couldn’t get the damn inspectors out there when they were supposed to get there,” said Wilkinson, adding that when they did arrive, “There was always something more that you needed to have. They didn’t like where you had a light switch positioned or something stupid like that.

“I spoke to Dave Alley, and 30 minutes after I spoke to him, I had my CO, because I was nice and he was nice and everybody loved everybody else,” he added. “But he shouldn’t have to do that. I shouldn’t have to call in favors like that.”

Wilkinson said that he had an inspector tell him that because he got Trammell involved, he wasn’t going to do anything to help him.

“So, it’s a vindictive thing,” he said. “You would think that they would help you, because you’re investing in their city and increasing their property tax revenue. But it’s like they’re fighting you. They try to put up every impediment to your permit and inspection that they can. It’s like they go out of their way.”

Others have shared similar sentiments, including City Councilman Andreas Addison, who experienced his own frustrations with the permitting process while trying to open a gym in Scott’s Addition.

“The expectation was for me to figure out the solution, rather than it being, ‘Hey, here’s what we’ll accept,’” Addison said. He added that such frustrations with the city’s process and delays have caused some to avoid doing business there.

Permits Andreas Addison scaled

City Councilman Andreas Addison outside the Scott’s Addition space he’s remodeling as a gym.

“I had been engaging with general contractors and plumbers and electricians to do work. I was hung up on when I told them the address,” he said. “To be hung up on because of the address and location of it being in the city of Richmond, it’s fascinating. People just saying, pretty much, ‘No, I’m not interested.’ That was a very eye-opening experience.”

Markham, the former city planner, acknowledged that there may be some variation in responsiveness from City Hall staff depending on different circumstances. But she said it’s human nature, not retribution.

“If you’re doing your job, and someone’s screaming at you and all you’re trying to do is help them, you’re going to be less-inclined to be speedy about it,” Markham said. “If you go down there with a hammer yelling at people, they might give it to you so you get out of their face this time. But they’re not going to be inclined to bend over backwards to help you next time.

“But the people who go down to City Hall and treat the people like people and understand human nature are the people who are going to get their permits the easiest.”

‘You don’t know what you don’t know’

Alley, the building commissioner, said he’s committed to showing such a culture doesn’t exist and won’t be tolerated in the office. He said he also wants the public to feel free to air their grievances without fear of retaliation.

“No one likes to receive a complaint. However, complaints are a useful tool for improving customer service and should be used as an opportunity to gauge our services,” Alley said in an email. “You don’t know what you don’t know until someone speaks out!”

Addison, the city councilman, said such dialogue will be needed as the city works toward improving the process. Having gone through it as a first-time business owner, he said he wants to see the development community come together with city staff to communicate what’s broken and how best to fix it.

“I want to have input from developers, architects, contractors, to share in what the process needs to be,” Addison said. “The more you can get that type of engagement throughout the process, it’s more successful, and all of a sudden we’ve done what’s been asked of us for 15 years and put that at the center of what we want to do for economic development.”

Markham agreed.

“Everybody acknowledges there’s a problem. So how do we fix it? I think everybody getting together trying to fix it together is the best solution,” she said, “and everybody acknowledging it’s not going to be something that’s fixed in a month. It’s taken decades to get here.”

Permits main

Applicants wait in line at Richmond’s permitting center when it was still open to walk-ins before the pandemic. (BizSense file photos)

Editor’s Note: This is the last installment in a three-part series examining development review processes at Richmond City Hall. For previous articles, click here and here.

Builders and developers in Richmond aren’t shy about sharing their frustrations with the city’s permits and inspections office. But more often than not, they don’t want to put their name to it.

Many who BizSense has talked to over the years and in recent weeks while reporting on the office’s ongoing challenges have been quick to criticize the city and offer suggestions for improvement, so long as their name stays out of an article.

Said one builder who asked not to be named because he’s active in the city and known at City Hall: “I’ve got too much going on, I don’t need to be put on that blacklist.”

He added, “I’m afraid to put my name on it, because I don’t want the workers there to be like, ‘He told on us. Hey, is that one of his applications? Put it to the back of the pile.’”

Another City Hall frequenter who went on-record with his grievances in a past report later said he paid a price for doing so, contending that he had a harder time getting permits for the project at the center of his frustrations after he spoke out.

That was before the current leadership responsible for the office — Building Commissioner David Alley and Planning and Development Review Director Kevin Vonck — were put in charge last year. Both have been credited with making recent moves that some see as reasons to be optimistic for the future.

But such reports and perceptions among the development community remain a common refrain, and are nonetheless concerning to Vonck and Alley, they said.

Permits Kevin Vonck

Planning and Development Review Department Director Kevin Vonck outside Richmond City Hall. He was put in charge last year.

“I am dismayed to hear these types of comments,” said Vonck, who was named director last fall after leading the department in an acting role since the start of last year.

In an email, he added, “We will not tolerate any type of retaliation whatsoever from our employees. If a customer believes that he/she is being treated in a discriminatory or unfair manner, he/she should contact me immediately.”

Alley, a 20-year city employee who came up through the office before being named to lead it seven months ago, said such accounts do not match up with his experience at City Hall.

“I have received/investigated many complaints over the years as you would expect. However, none were related to employee retaliation or vindictiveness,” Alley said in an email.

“This type of behavior would certainly never be allowed or tolerated,” he added. “I hold myself and our staff to a higher ethical standard. How we represent ourselves reflects on how we represent the City of Richmond.”

Inherited issues

Vonck and Alley have inherited an office that has been plagued for years by complaints from builders and developers of slow turnarounds for permits, inspection no-shows and other delays that end up drawing out their projects and adding to their costs.

They’ve also inherited attempted fixes that applicants say have ended up making such problems worse, such as the slow-to-roll-out EnerGov Citizen Self Service platform that’s used to process and track applications online, and a more recent arrangement to outsource some plan reviews to a consulting firm office in California.

While they’re continuing the latter to help reduce the office’s backlog of plan reviews, Vonck and Alley are planning to phase out EnerGov in favor of an in-house system that could ultimately lead to a longer-term replacement. An anticipated upgrade to the processing software is included in the city’s proposed budget for next fiscal year, which starts in July.

The move would bring an end to a decade-long process that only started producing results four years ago, when the first EnerGov rollout went live. Additional features were rolled out in the years since, bringing to life what the city had purchased in 2012, when it awarded a $1.6 million contract to Georgia-based EnerGov Solutions for the system upgrades.

Lory Markham, a former city planner who started at City Hall around the time the procurement process that led to EnerGov got underway, said dropping the system, which she described as overly complex and inconsistently used, is a gutsy decision but the right one to make.

Permits Lory Markham

Lory Markham, a former planner at City Hall, now assists permit applicants through Markham Planning, her private development consulting business.

“The city outsourced that fundamental function of local government to this company in Atlanta, and they were not capable of providing that function in a way that the city needed it, for a number of reasons,” said Markham, now a private development consultant.

“The recognition of that from David Alley and Kevin Vonck — and the guts that it took to say, ‘This system isn’t working, we’re going to get rid of it,’ after the city had spent all this money and all this time on it — I think that is a huge step in the right direction,” Markham said. “It’s not any one person’s fault; it just didn’t work, and it caused this huge backlog.”

‘It’s a vindictive thing’

Now in the development consulting business, Markham has an upfront view of the applicant side of the permitting process in Richmond, interacting with the office regularly on behalf of her clients. And with her added perspective from her time in City Hall, Markham dismisses any claims of vindictiveness or acts of retribution from the office or City Hall on the whole.

“I just think that that is ridiculous,” Markham said, laughing. “It’s not like there’s a list of people that if they come in, they automatically go to the bottom of the pile. Just like there’s not a list of people that if they come in, they automatically go to the top of the pile. There’s a system, and if you know how to work within that system … you’re going to get (the permit) easier.

“I always felt like the people that worked at City Hall, myself included, were there to make the city a better place. I never felt like there was like a conspiracy to target people.”

Still, the perception remains among some developers.

Permits Tom Wilkinson

Tom Wilkinson

One of those is Tom Wilkinson, whose latest project over years of developing in Richmond is Port City, his conversion of the former American Tobacco Co. complex into income-based apartments.

Wilkinson, who said Port City will be his last in Richmond ahead of a planned retirement, alleged that he couldn’t get a certificate of occupancy for the project’s second phase after he complained about electrical inspection no-shows to Reva Trammell, the area’s City Council representative, who he said is a friend.

“I couldn’t get the CO because I couldn’t get the damn inspectors out there when they were supposed to get there,” said Wilkinson, adding that when they did arrive, “There was always something more that you needed to have. They didn’t like where you had a light switch positioned or something stupid like that.

“I spoke to Dave Alley, and 30 minutes after I spoke to him, I had my CO, because I was nice and he was nice and everybody loved everybody else,” he added. “But he shouldn’t have to do that. I shouldn’t have to call in favors like that.”

Wilkinson said that he had an inspector tell him that because he got Trammell involved, he wasn’t going to do anything to help him.

“So, it’s a vindictive thing,” he said. “You would think that they would help you, because you’re investing in their city and increasing their property tax revenue. But it’s like they’re fighting you. They try to put up every impediment to your permit and inspection that they can. It’s like they go out of their way.”

Others have shared similar sentiments, including City Councilman Andreas Addison, who experienced his own frustrations with the permitting process while trying to open a gym in Scott’s Addition.

“The expectation was for me to figure out the solution, rather than it being, ‘Hey, here’s what we’ll accept,’” Addison said. He added that such frustrations with the city’s process and delays have caused some to avoid doing business there.

Permits Andreas Addison scaled

City Councilman Andreas Addison outside the Scott’s Addition space he’s remodeling as a gym.

“I had been engaging with general contractors and plumbers and electricians to do work. I was hung up on when I told them the address,” he said. “To be hung up on because of the address and location of it being in the city of Richmond, it’s fascinating. People just saying, pretty much, ‘No, I’m not interested.’ That was a very eye-opening experience.”

Markham, the former city planner, acknowledged that there may be some variation in responsiveness from City Hall staff depending on different circumstances. But she said it’s human nature, not retribution.

“If you’re doing your job, and someone’s screaming at you and all you’re trying to do is help them, you’re going to be less-inclined to be speedy about it,” Markham said. “If you go down there with a hammer yelling at people, they might give it to you so you get out of their face this time. But they’re not going to be inclined to bend over backwards to help you next time.

“But the people who go down to City Hall and treat the people like people and understand human nature are the people who are going to get their permits the easiest.”

‘You don’t know what you don’t know’

Alley, the building commissioner, said he’s committed to showing such a culture doesn’t exist and won’t be tolerated in the office. He said he also wants the public to feel free to air their grievances without fear of retaliation.

“No one likes to receive a complaint. However, complaints are a useful tool for improving customer service and should be used as an opportunity to gauge our services,” Alley said in an email. “You don’t know what you don’t know until someone speaks out!”

Addison, the city councilman, said such dialogue will be needed as the city works toward improving the process. Having gone through it as a first-time business owner, he said he wants to see the development community come together with city staff to communicate what’s broken and how best to fix it.

“I want to have input from developers, architects, contractors, to share in what the process needs to be,” Addison said. “The more you can get that type of engagement throughout the process, it’s more successful, and all of a sudden we’ve done what’s been asked of us for 15 years and put that at the center of what we want to do for economic development.”

Markham agreed.

“Everybody acknowledges there’s a problem. So how do we fix it? I think everybody getting together trying to fix it together is the best solution,” she said, “and everybody acknowledging it’s not going to be something that’s fixed in a month. It’s taken decades to get here.”

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Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago

One of the reasons that HBAR created the MF Council was to act as the intermediary between developer and contractor members and City staff on plan processing issues. It brought about 100 member firms together as one voice and reduced the need for one member to be singled out by disgruntled and over-worked personnel at City Hall. I can’t say it’s been any where near 100% effective but we knew we were in the long slog when it started. What we didn’t calculate was the phenomenal demand of the market for so many new projects that acserbated the backlog. Its… Read more »

Shawn Harper
Shawn Harper
1 year ago

Corruptly run democratic machine towns (I am from one in NYS) are notoriously like Putin’s run Russia in this way. My father, who was a liberal that tended to vote for democrats usually even told me when I bought my first residence in Albany, NY that I should officially register as a Democrat no matter who I planned to vote for, so my tax assessment didn’t go up and my requests at city hall would be listened to. My father was always for the “little guy” and the poor, but that did not mean he didn’t know that democratic machines… Read more »

Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago
Reply to  Shawn Harper

I assume you are referring to the Democratic Party and not democratic institutions as being corrupt. That might hold sway in northern cities where the mob was so entrenched but that’s not the case in Richmond. This is solely about an under-funded and under-staffed department that was poorly led through two decades of phenomenal population growth and demographic changes. The elected officials have been un-responsive and have had little trust for the business leaders other than seeking campaign contributions from them. This isn’t about corruption.

Michael P Morgan-Dodson
Michael P Morgan-Dodson
1 year ago
Reply to  Bruce Milam

Understaffed maybe; underfunded???? The city has a $836 million general fund budget (AND with annual capital spending our total $1 BILLION annually). Henrico has 50% more populations, a lot more open older school buildings, a high poverty rate (and meals program participation) in it East End, lot of infrastructure that is from post-WWII suburban sprawl at the end of its useful life but only has a 20% large budget. In fact the city spending has DOUBLED in the last 15 years from a general fund budget of $415M in FY 06-07 to the $836M in FY22-23. They are NOT underfunded.… Read more »

Lee Gaskins
Lee Gaskins
1 year ago

Richmond City Public Schools does the same thing. “We need more money!”, they cry. They spend more per student than any surrounding county. It’s not about the money, it’s about mis-management.

Boz Boschen
Boz Boschen
1 year ago
Reply to  Lee Gaskins

You should read up on the Local Composite Index that’s used to fund schools and then report back on how Richmond is funded compared to other localities.

Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago

You misunderstood. The City is not under funded; the Planning and Permitting departments are. The City raises $9-10Million per year from fees generated by development and it budgets a mere third of that ( at least historically) to service the departments that raise those funds. The GA by the way passed a law sponsored by HBAR and HBAV and signed by Governor Mac requiring that the City match those fees and services. Its yet to comply. The City services as many permits per year as Henrico County but with half the staff as the County. The City probably should just… Read more »

Matt Merica
Matt Merica
1 year ago
Reply to  Bruce Milam

Again, please use real numbers! I randomly pulled 5 months of building permits issued by both City RVA and Henrico for the same time periods from 2019 to 2021 – Henrico is easily 3 to 1 in volume, go look for yourself, then go and actually check the budgets for each segment and rethink your position

https://henrico.us/public-data/building-permits-december-2020/

https://www.richmond.ca/plandev/building/reports/reports.htm

Matt Merica
Matt Merica
1 year ago
Reply to  Bruce Milam

Ineptitude is its own form of corruption. Stop making excuses for the joke that is the City of RVA political segments, it is unsavory. Not sure what “phenomenal population growth” you are referring to, the city has roughly a 1% population growth trend?? Stop spouting gibberish and check yourself.

What is the population of Richmond Virginia 2020?
226,610
Table
Population, Census, April 1, 2020 226,610
Population, Census, April 1, 2010 204,214

Matt Faris
Matt Faris
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Merica

So, the city grew more in those 10 years (11%) than the state (8%). Norfolk was < 2% over the same 10 year period.

Gary Huff
Gary Huff
1 year ago
Reply to  Shawn Harper

The Richmond City Democratic Committee has a general body meeting at 6:30 pm this Thursday (virtual). If you attend, you will clearly see the democrats are not organized enough to monitor who is registered as a democrat in order to process permits faster or keep assessments down. I am much more involved with the democrats than my immediate neighbor and my assessment has risen faster than theirs! As Bruce says, this is more about a department which has been poorly led for some time. I think our city elected leaders would find more support for the more ambitious plans if… Read more »

Ryan Foster
Ryan Foster
1 year ago

I’m very accustomed to contractors turning down work for the sole reason of the Richmond permit office. It really hurts the residents more than what’s on surface level… which is already unacceptable for a hundred reasons.

Brian Glass
Brian Glass
1 year ago

There’s a simple solution for ending the permitting back-up. Developers should look for projects in the surrounding counties that are far more customer friendly.
Without projects to review the backlog will diminish in the city.

Michael P Morgan-Dodson
Michael P Morgan-Dodson
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian Glass

Or consolidate offices; if the City can outsource back office work to a California company why not to Henrico County? Henrico could hire and manage the permit review, inspection, systems and City employees just oversee the counter/front end input. City could pay Henrico a fee. Just an idea.

Last edited 1 year ago by Michael P Morgan-Dodson
Robert Smalls
Robert Smalls
1 year ago

I think the city should try to poach some county government talent. A few key hires could really improve things.

Michael P Morgan-Dodson
Michael P Morgan-Dodson
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Smalls

Issue 1: City is NOT on the VRS system but its own retirement system. If you leave the County and last 4 years in the City your not vested and you loose those benefits. Unless you move your benefits between systems which takes an Act of God. PS Old city RRS manager was former Sheriff Woody’s wife.

Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago

And I thought what I typed was an original idea! You beat me to it!

Matt Merica
Matt Merica
1 year ago

Why does Henrico give a rip about picking up more work? Is it in the County’s mission statement to babysit the City of RVA lol

Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago
Reply to  Brian Glass

Of course, some of that has occurred already, but the market demand for urban living is so much stronger than that of suburban living for the population that desires apartment living and office situations. Some suburban sprawl is pushing for higher density in-fill such as Innsbrook and the entire West Broad corridor and Midlothian. It all comes down to demand. The City’s inefficiency has pushed some of the demand to the suburbs.

Cathy Tyrrell
Cathy Tyrrell
1 year ago

Have we considered paying employees commission on completed permits rather than hourly or salary? If their livelihood depends on getting it done, maybe they would consider that ours does too. Of course, this would be a fixed amount commission- or at least organized among employees in a way that the small jobs never go to the bottom of the pile because higher commission is paid on larger jobs.
They have zero incentive to do anything other than what they are currently doing. Community complaining is validating the power they hold using their ineptitude as an excuse.

Matt Faris
Matt Faris
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Tyrrell

So you’re suggesting plan reviewers get paid commissions based on the amount o\f approvals? Yikes!

Bruce Milam
Bruce Milam
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Faris

That won’t work.

Cathy Tyrrell
Cathy Tyrrell
1 year ago
Reply to  Bruce Milam

Why not?

Matt Faris
Matt Faris
1 year ago
Reply to  Bruce Milam

No doubt.

Cathy Tyrrell
Cathy Tyrrell
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Faris

I’m suggesting they only get paid on performance. It isn’t a bonus on top of their salary- it replaces their salary. You may think they will push things through just to make the money and disregard all safety and building code. The inspectors are in the field double checking the plans against the work. If it doesn’t meet code it will fail regardless of the plans. If they are handing out permits just to get paid, they would be immediately decommissioned (they owe the money back to the city), terminated, and if egregious wrongdoing is found, any legal remedies the… Read more »

Matt Faris
Matt Faris
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Tyrrell

That won’t work, either. Workers must get paid. What determines performance? Approvals? Rejections? How would private engineering firms stamp a design they didn’t oversee? That’s illegal. (maybe I misunderstood). As other localities have proven, the system works if managed correctly.

Cathy Tyrrell
Cathy Tyrrell
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Faris
  1. They do get paid. A base of minimum wage or commission whichever is higher. That’s VA employment law.
  2. The City of Richmond determines performance- employees sign a contract. So whatever the parameters that are agreed upon are the standards for performance. TBD
  3. BOTH inspect/oversee. The third party (holding the highest license) inspects and approves. City inspector follows with approval or denial.
  4. I agree one hundred percent. Who is mis-managing this? We want names.
Matt Faris
Matt Faris
1 year ago
Reply to  Cathy Tyrrell

Sorry. I misunderstood your “…they only get paid on performance” statement. Sadly, it all leads back to management.

Matthew Maggy
Matthew Maggy
1 year ago

This from Ms. Markham is very accurate and should be more heeded: ““If you’re doing your job, and someone’s screaming at you and all you’re trying to do is help them, you’re going to be less-inclined to be speedy about it,” Markham said. “If you go down there with a hammer yelling at people, they might give it to you so you get out of their face this time. But they’re not going to be inclined to bend over backwards to help you next time.“But the people who go down to City Hall and treat the people like people and… Read more »